Episode 35: Franz Nicolay

The Hold Steady’s and World Inferno Friendship Society’s Franz Nicolay joins me to talk about his rock novel ‘Someone Should Pay For Your Pain’, a story that follows singer-songwriter Rudy, his conflicted relationship with a successful former protégé named Ryan, and Rudy’s young niece, Lily, who wants to travel with him and whose surprise appearance forces a reckoning with himself and his past.

 

Episode 35 Promo

 

Franz Nicolay

In addition to records under his own name, Franz Nicolay was a member of cabaret-punk orchestra World Inferno Friendship Society and is still a member of The Hold Steady, which ‘Rolling Stone’ magazine called “one of the all-time great New York bands.” Franz has also recorded or performed with dozens of other acts.

His first book, the nonfiction ‘The Humorless Ladies of Border Control’, was named a “Season’s Best Travel Book” by ‘The New York Times’. His second book, the novel ‘Someone Should Pay For Your Pain’, was named one of ‘Rolling Stone’s “Best Music Books of 2021.”

His writing has appeared in ‘The New York Times’, ‘Slate’, ‘The Paris Review Daily’, ‘The Kenyon Review Online’, ‘Ploughshares’, the ‘Los Angeles Review of Books’, ‘Threepenny Review’, and elsewhere. He has taught at UC–Berkeley and is currently a faculty member in music and written arts at Bard College and in Columbia University’s MFA fiction program.

 

About the Episode

EPISODE SUMMARY:

Well, this is it: the Season 2 finale! What could be better than having a great novelist AND musician as my last guest for the summer. Enter Franz Nicolay. 

Franz is here to talk about his rock novel ‘Someone Should Pay For Your Pain’, a story that follows singer-songwriter Rudy, his conflicted relationship with a successful former protégé named Ryan, and Rudy’s young niece, Lily, who wants to travel with him and whose surprise appearance forces a reckoning with himself and his past.

‘Buzzfeed’ named it one of its “42 Great Books To Read” for spring 2021, stating, “Starting at the midlife crisis of an early-aughts indie rock never-was, Franz Nicolay delivers a tight-fisted gut punch of a novel, weaving a road-weary world with a lyricist's skill for evocation, emotion, and economy. . . . A knockout fiction debut from a longtime troubadour.”  

Franz and I talk about his novel, The Hold Steady’s brand new album ‘The Price of Progress’, his stint in World Inferno Friendship Society, the death of World Inferno leader Jack Terricloth, Franz’s favorite rock novels, and more.

 

MUSIC IN THE EPISODE IN ORDER OF APPEARANCE:

  • Punk Rock Instrumental No Copyright

  • “Always Something In My Blindspot Waiting” by Vic Ruggiero

  • “Sideways Skull” by The Hold Steady

  • “Perdido” by The Hold Steady

  • Clip from the beginning of documentary on World Inferno Friendship Society

  • “This Is Not a Pipe” by Franz Nicolay

  • “So You Want to be a Rock and Roll Star” by Patti Smith

  • “Gainesville Rock City” by Less than Jake

  • “Someone Will Pay” by Justin Townes Earle

  • “I Was a Teenage Anarchist” by Against Me!

  • “Good Day” by The Dresden Dolls

  • “When You Get to Asheville” by Steve Martin and Edie Brickell

  • “New River, Spring For Me” by Franz Nicolay

 

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Franz Nicolay’s website: https://franznicolay.com/

Franz Nicolay on Twitter, Instagram: @FranzNicolay

The Hold Steady’s website: https://theholdsteady.net/

The World Inferno Friendship Society’s website: https://www.worldinferno.com/

 

The Hold Steady: Bobby Drake, Galen Polivka, Craig Finn, Tab Kubler, Franz Nicolay

 

The Hold Steady’s new album, ‘The Price of Progress’

 

The Hold Steady performs “Grand Junction” on CBS Saturday Morning

 

World Inferno Friendship Society: Jack Terricloth far right, Franz Nicolay center

 

World Inferno Friendship Society documentary

 
 

Book trailer for Salman Rushdie’s novel ‘Luka and the Fire of Life’ (Franz is in the trailer)

Christy Hallberg

Christy Alexander Hallberg is the author of the award-winning novel ‘Searching for Jimmy Page’ and host of Rock is Lit, the first and only podcast devoted to rock novels.

https://www.christyalexanderhallberg.com/
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